A thought ago i was there, so i think i should be, it is this a-thought-ago's continuity of existence that bestows upon me the being, that i have been and have been having
-Chinmay Vijay Dharurkar
Research Scholar
IIT Bombay.
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This is a tough one to understand. Here I am posting my discussion with the author of the above thought for better understanding -
ReplyDeleteme: chinmay
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5:56 PM
Chinmay: thank you re...मीच लिहलंय!
me: sahee ahe ekdum
me tujya naavane majya blog var publish karto ahe
chalel naa
5:57 PM
Chinmay: ज़रूर! याला पार्श्वभूमी आहे सार्त्र आणि Existential Philosophy ची!
me: okk..,.
mala tar he sagla kahi mahit nahi
pan khupach changla vichar vatla mala
5:58 PM
a thought ago
5:59 PM
Chinmay: मूळ कल्पना अशी होती की (१६ वे शतक) I think therefore I am
me: ok
6:00 PM
Chinmay: याला आव्हान देण्यात आलं की आधी असावं लागतं मग विचार करता येतो. ज़री अस्तित्वात असण्याची ज़ाणीव विचाराने होत असली तरी
me: ok
correct
Chinmay: म्हणजे आधी सत् असते मग सत्त्व, आधी सत्त्व आणि मग सत् हे सर्वथा असंभव आहे!
6:01 PM
me: agreed
Chinmay: सत्= existence, सत्त्व = एस्सेन्चे
सत्त्व =essence
me: ok
6:02 PM
Chinmay: so Existence precedes essence, and essence follows existence
me: ok
6:03 PM
Chinmay: म्हणजे कालातील क्षणमय अस्तित्वांची मालिका मला सत्त्व देते, माझ्यात पूर्वस्थित सत्त्व असे काही नसते.
me: kaalateet ani kshanamaya
6:04 PM
he donhi ekach veli kasa kay
Chinmay: काळातील not कालातीत
6:05 PM
me: ok
correct
haan
now i understand
Chinmay: सत्परं सत्त्वं नान्यथा (=सत्त्वपरं सत् न)
6:06 PM
me: आम्
यतो हि
सत: इदं - सत्त्वम्
6:08 PM
सत्त्व is some thing that is felt in सत्
Chinmay: अतीते आसम्‌ इत्यादिज्ञानेन सतः कालगतं ज्ञानं भवति, तदेव सत्त्वं जनयति। भूतज्ञानभिन्नं नान्यत्‌ सत्त्वं वर्तमानस्य।
me: ok
6:09 PM
Chinmay: true "सत्त्व is some thing that is felt in सत्"...it is its continuity in time that makes सत्त्व realizable
me: ok
6:10 PM
correct
Chinmay: सत् in a present moment means nothing if it does not acknowledge its' continuity in past
6:11 PM
me: ok
Chinmay: Be ware this is नास्तिक!
me: ok
6:12 PM
Chinmay: for आस्तिकs सत्त्व pregiven
essence has to precede
for आस्तिकs
me: ok
6:13 PM
what i could independently think on this issue is that
सत् may be the object and सत्त्व is the experience of it
Chinmay: true
6:14 PM
me: so सत् is there and सत्त्व comes into existence when one starts experiencing it
Chinmay: true
6:15 PM
me: fine